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The list is in chronological order.
The list is in chronological order.
<ol>Collier<br/>
<ol>Collier<br/>
Built 1918 as S.S. TIDEWATER<br/>
Built 1918 by the New York Shipbuilding Co., Camden, NJ<br/>
Launched April 20 1918<br/>
Launched, 20 April 1918<br/>
Renamed GLEN WHITE (Date unknown)<br/>
Acquired U.S. Navy July 22 1918<br/><br/>
Acquired U.S. Navy July 22 1918<br/><br/>
<li>'''USS GLEN WHITE ID-2068'''</li>
<li>'''USS GLEN WHITE ID-2068'''</li>
Commissioned July 22 1918 - Decommissioned March 6 1919<br/><br/>
Commissioned July 22 1918<br/>
Returned to the United States Shipping Board 1919<br/>
Assigned to the Naval Overseas Transportation Service (NOTS)<br/>
Decommissioned March 6 1919<br/>
Returned to the United States Shipping Board 1919<br/><br/>
<li>'''GLEN WHITE''' (Commercial Service)</li>
<i>Lloyd's Register of Shipping 1920</i> lists the owner as "Castner, Curran, & Bullitt, Inc"<br/>
Official Number: 216529<br/>
Sold c1927 to Mystic Steamship Co. Mystic shown as owner until at least 1934<br/>
By 1936, owner listed as "Koppers Coal Co (Mystic SS Co Mgrs)"<br/>
<i>Lloyd's Register of Shipping 1942</i> lists the owner as "Eastern Gas & Fuel Associates (State of Massachusetts, Trustees)"<br/>
In 1947, owner listed as the US Maritime Commission<br/><br/>
Scrapped at Philadelphia, PA in 1948.
Scrapped at Philadelphia, PA in 1948.
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<h5>Conflicting History Data</h5>
There is disagreement regarding the initial name of this ship as well as who it was originally built for.<br/><br/>
[https://www.navsource.org/archives/12/172068.htm NavSource] says this ship was originally named TIDEWATER
and then renamed to GLEN WHITE.
It does not say who the ship was originally built for.<br/><br/>
[https://www.history.navy.mil/research/histories/ship-histories/danfs/g/glen-white.html Naval History and Heritage Command] (DANFS successor)
agrees with: "Glen White was built as Tidewater by the New York Shipbuilding Co., Camden, N.J.,..."
and then indicates that the ship was built "for the American-Italian Steam Ship Co., New York"<br/><br/>
However, [https://shipscribe.com/usnaux/ww1/ships/glenwhit.htm Shipscribe] says that TIDEWATER and GLEN WHITE were two different ships
and that TIDEWATER was later renamed to ISAAC T. MANN in 1923.<br/><br/>
The [https://shipscribe.com/usnaux/ww1/ships/tidewatr.htm Shipscribe] page for TIDEWATER includes the following passage:<br/>
"Note: World War I-era Navy clerks appear to have thought that Glen White was S.S. Tidewater renamed and that both names referred to the same ship. They assigned ID # 2068 to this ship -- the number was later used exclusively for Glen White. Shipyard and other records make it clear that these were different vessels. Additional evidence of the error was provided when in May 1943 S.S. Glen White and S.S. Isaac T. Mann (ex-Tidewater) sailed from Cuba to New York in the same convoy."<br/><br/>
Shipscribe also indicates that GLEN WHITE "was one of a series of eight similar ships built by the New York Shipbuilding Corp. between 1915 and 1918 for two U.S. coastal shipping firms, the Coastwise Transportation Co. and Darrow Mann Co".<br/>
They did not indicate which one they believed applied to GLEN WHITE.
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Ship Name and Designation History

This section lists the names and designations that the ship had during its lifetime. The list is in chronological order.

    Collier
    Built 1918 by the New York Shipbuilding Co., Camden, NJ
    Launched, 20 April 1918
    Acquired U.S. Navy July 22 1918

  1. USS GLEN WHITE ID-2068
  2. Commissioned July 22 1918
    Assigned to the Naval Overseas Transportation Service (NOTS)
    Decommissioned March 6 1919
    Returned to the United States Shipping Board 1919

  3. GLEN WHITE (Commercial Service)
  4. Lloyd's Register of Shipping 1920 lists the owner as "Castner, Curran, & Bullitt, Inc"
    Official Number: 216529
    Sold c1927 to Mystic Steamship Co. Mystic shown as owner until at least 1934
    By 1936, owner listed as "Koppers Coal Co (Mystic SS Co Mgrs)"
    Lloyd's Register of Shipping 1942 lists the owner as "Eastern Gas & Fuel Associates (State of Massachusetts, Trustees)"
    In 1947, owner listed as the US Maritime Commission

    Scrapped at Philadelphia, PA in 1948.

 

Conflicting History Data

There is disagreement regarding the initial name of this ship as well as who it was originally built for.

NavSource says this ship was originally named TIDEWATER and then renamed to GLEN WHITE. It does not say who the ship was originally built for.

Naval History and Heritage Command (DANFS successor) agrees with: "Glen White was built as Tidewater by the New York Shipbuilding Co., Camden, N.J.,..." and then indicates that the ship was built "for the American-Italian Steam Ship Co., New York"

However, Shipscribe says that TIDEWATER and GLEN WHITE were two different ships and that TIDEWATER was later renamed to ISAAC T. MANN in 1923.

The Shipscribe page for TIDEWATER includes the following passage:
"Note: World War I-era Navy clerks appear to have thought that Glen White was S.S. Tidewater renamed and that both names referred to the same ship. They assigned ID # 2068 to this ship -- the number was later used exclusively for Glen White. Shipyard and other records make it clear that these were different vessels. Additional evidence of the error was provided when in May 1943 S.S. Glen White and S.S. Isaac T. Mann (ex-Tidewater) sailed from Cuba to New York in the same convoy."

Shipscribe also indicates that GLEN WHITE "was one of a series of eight similar ships built by the New York Shipbuilding Corp. between 1915 and 1918 for two U.S. coastal shipping firms, the Coastwise Transportation Co. and Darrow Mann Co".
They did not indicate which one they believed applied to GLEN WHITE.

 

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