POINT GARNET WPB 82310: Difference between revisions

From NavalCoverMuseum
Jump to navigation Jump to search
mNo edit summary
updated ship names section
Line 33: Line 33:
</ol>
</ol>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
 
<h5>Conflicting History Data</h5>
There is disagreement on the name and hull number given to the ship by the South Vietnamese Navy.<br/>
The confusion may be due to the fact that both POINT LEAGUE WPB-82304 and POINT GARNET WPB-82310 were<br/>
both turned over to the Vietnamese Navy at the same time on 16 May 1969 at the Saigon Navy Base.<br/><br/>
The U.S. Wikipedia pages for [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USCGC_Point_League POINT LEAGUE WPB-82304] and
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USCGC_Point_Garnet POINT GARNET WPB-82310] say the following:<br/>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Point League --> RVNS Lê Phước Đức (HQ-700)<br/>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Point Garnet --> RVNS Lê Văn Ngà (HQ-701)<br/>
This matches the data from the ships' pages on the U.S. Coast Guard website<br/><br/>
However, the Vietnamese Wikipedia page for the
[https://vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%E1%BA%A3i_qu%C3%A2n_Vi%E1%BB%87t_Nam_C%E1%BB%99ng_h%C3%B2a Navy of the Republic of Vietnam] states the opposite:<br/>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Point Garnet --> RVNS Lê Phước Đức (HQ-700)<br/>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Point League --> RVNS Lê Văn Ngà (HQ-701)<br/>
This matches the blog post
[https://chienhuuvnch.com/2018/01/page/2/ The Story of the Republic of Vietnam Navy Evacuation] by Dinh Manh Hung (Đinh Mạnh Hùng) posted on January 26, 2018.<br/><br/> 
Another blog post,
[https://dongsongcu.wordpress.com/2024/07/23/ban-giao-tuan-duyen-dinh-patrol-boat-hq-700-hq-701-cg-82310-point-garnet-cg-82304-point-league-them-son-ha/ HANDOVER OF THE WPB (Patrol Boat), HQ 700, HQ 701, CG 82310 Point Garnet, CG 82304 Point League]<br/>
by author Dong Song Cu (dòng sông cũ) on July 23, 2024 also agrees with this version.<br/><br/>
<!-- Archive file: Point Garnet and Point League.pdf -->
To add to the confusion, the blog post
[https://dongsongxua.wordpress.com/2017/12/28/lich-su-cac-chien-ham-va-chien-dinh-hai-quan-vnch/ History of warships and warships of the Republic of Vietnam Navy]
by (I believe) Huỳnh Kim Chiến (user dongsongxua)<br/>
posted on December 28, 2017 mentions that (for whatever document they are referring to), the original names of
the ships were not recorded:<br/>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;HQ700 Le Phuoc Duc, the old name is missing from the document.<br/>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;HQ701 Le Van Nga, the old name is missing from the document.<br/><br/>
For now, I will use the data from the U.S. Wikipedia pages unless/until additional supporting evidence is provided for the Vietnamese Wikipedia version.
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3>Naval Covers</h3>
<h3>Naval Covers</h3>
This section lists active links to the pages displaying covers associated with the  
This section lists active links to the pages displaying covers associated with the  

Revision as of 16:27, 19 August 2024


Ship Name and Designation History

This section lists the names and designations that the ship had during its lifetime. The list is in chronological order.


    Point Class 82 foot Coastal Patrol Boat
    Keel Laid - Launched

  1. CG 82310 (U.S. Coast Guard)
  2. Commissioned March 15 1961

    [Note: Although the U.S. Coast Guard may use "WPB-82310" in its documentation, the identification painted
    on the ship's hull would have been "CG 82310" (as seen in standard photos of the class for that time period).]

  3. USCGC POINT GARNET WPB-82310
  4. Named and Designated January 1964 - Decommissioned May 16 1969

  5. LE VAN NGA HQ-701 (South Vietnamese Naval Service) (alt: LÊ VĂN NGÀ)
  6. Transfered to South Vietnam May 16 1969
    Effectively decommissioned on April 30, 1975 with the fall of South Vietnam

    Presumed scrapped by Vietnam by early 1980s

 

Conflicting History Data

There is disagreement on the name and hull number given to the ship by the South Vietnamese Navy.
The confusion may be due to the fact that both POINT LEAGUE WPB-82304 and POINT GARNET WPB-82310 were
both turned over to the Vietnamese Navy at the same time on 16 May 1969 at the Saigon Navy Base.

The U.S. Wikipedia pages for POINT LEAGUE WPB-82304 and POINT GARNET WPB-82310 say the following:
     Point League --> RVNS Lê Phước Đức (HQ-700)
     Point Garnet --> RVNS Lê Văn Ngà (HQ-701)
This matches the data from the ships' pages on the U.S. Coast Guard website

However, the Vietnamese Wikipedia page for the Navy of the Republic of Vietnam states the opposite:
     Point Garnet --> RVNS Lê Phước Đức (HQ-700)
     Point League --> RVNS Lê Văn Ngà (HQ-701)
This matches the blog post The Story of the Republic of Vietnam Navy Evacuation by Dinh Manh Hung (Đinh Mạnh Hùng) posted on January 26, 2018.

Another blog post, HANDOVER OF THE WPB (Patrol Boat), HQ 700, HQ 701, CG 82310 Point Garnet, CG 82304 Point League
by author Dong Song Cu (dòng sông cũ) on July 23, 2024 also agrees with this version.

To add to the confusion, the blog post History of warships and warships of the Republic of Vietnam Navy by (I believe) Huỳnh Kim Chiến (user dongsongxua)
posted on December 28, 2017 mentions that (for whatever document they are referring to), the original names of the ships were not recorded:
     HQ700 Le Phuoc Duc, the old name is missing from the document.
     HQ701 Le Van Nga, the old name is missing from the document.

For now, I will use the data from the U.S. Wikipedia pages unless/until additional supporting evidence is provided for the Vietnamese Wikipedia version.

 

Naval Covers

This section lists active links to the pages displaying covers associated with the ship. There should be a separate set of pages for each incarnation of the ship (ie, for each entry in the "Ship Name and Designation History" section). Covers should be presented in chronological order (or as best as can be determined).

Since a ship may have many covers, they may be split among many pages so it doesn't take forever for the pages to load. Each page link should be accompanied by a date range for covers on that page.

  1. Covers Page 1     (DATE RANGE)

 

Postmarks

This section lists examples of the postmarks used by the ship. There should be a separate set of postmarks for each incarnation of the ship (ie, for each entry in the "Ship Name and Designation History" section). Within each set, the postmarks should be listed in order of their classification type. If more than one postmark has the same classification, then they should be further sorted by date of earliest known usage.

A postmark should not be included unless accompanied by a close-up image and/or an image of a cover showing that postmark. Date ranges MUST be based ONLY ON COVERS IN THE MUSEUM and are expected to change as more covers are added.
 
>>> If you have a better example for any of the postmarks, please feel free to replace the existing example.


 

Postmark Type
---
Killer Bar Text

Date From
to
Date To
Thumbnail Link To
Postmark Image
Thumbnail Link To
Cover Image


 

Locy Type 2

USS Krishna ARL-38

1966-02-28
to
1966-02-28

N/A

Note:

 

Other Information

This section lists any other information that might be relevant to this ship.

 


 

If you have images or information to add to this page, then either contact the Curator or edit this page yourself and add it. See Editing Ship Pages for detailed information on editing this page.

 


Copyright 2024 Naval Cover Museum