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<li>'''USCGC POINT BANKS WPB-82327'''</li> | <li>'''USCGC POINT BANKS WPB-82327'''</li> | ||
Named and Designated January 1964 - Decommissioned May 26 1970<br/><br/> | Named and Designated January 1964 - Decommissioned May 26 1970<br/><br/> | ||
<li>''' | <li>'''VAN DIEN HQ-719''' (South Vietnamese Naval Service) (alt: VAN-DIEM, VĂN-ÐIỀM, VĂN ĐIỂN, VÂN ĐIỀN)</li> | ||
Transferred to South Vietnam May 26 1970 | Transferred to South Vietnam May 26 1970<br/> | ||
Decommissioned 30 Apr 1975<br/><br/> | |||
Scrapped (date unknown) | |||
</ol> | </ol> | ||
<p> </p> | <p> </p> | ||
<h5>Conflicting History Data</h5> | <h5>Conflicting History Data</h5> | ||
There is one minor disagreement on the date of transfer to South Vietnam and a larger disagreement on the Vietnamese name and hull number.<br/> | |||
<ol> | |||
<li>Regarding the date of transfer to South Vietnam:</li><br/> | |||
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USCGC_Point_Banks Wikipedia] says: | [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USCGC_Point_Banks Wikipedia] says: | ||
"On 17 November 1969, Point Banks was turned over to the Republic of Vietnam Navy<br/> | "On 17 November 1969, Point Banks was turned over to the Republic of Vietnam Navy<br/> | ||
as part of the Vietnamization of the war effort and recommissioned as HQ-719."<br/><br/> | as part of the Vietnamization of the war effort and recommissioned as HQ-719."<br/><br/> | ||
The [https://www.history.uscg.mil/Browse-by-Topic/Assets/Water/All/Article/2535962/point-banks-1961-wpb-82327/ | The U.S. Coast Guard history page for [https://www.history.uscg.mil/Browse-by-Topic/Assets/Water/All/Article/2535962/point-banks-1961-wpb-82327/ POINT BANKS] says: | ||
"Transferred to South Vietnam as HQ 719 on 26 May 1970."<br/> | |||
The May 1970 service end date conflicts with Wikipedia's November 1969 but they both agree the ship was transferred to South Vietnam as HQ-719.<br/><br/> | The May 1970 service end date conflicts with Wikipedia's November 1969 but they both agree the ship was transferred to South Vietnam as HQ-719.<br/><br/> | ||
[https://chienhuuvnch.com/2018/01/page/2/ The Story of the Republic of Vietnam Navy Evacuation] blog article by Dinh Manh Hung (Đinh Mạnh Hùng) dated January 26, 2018 says:<br/> | |||
"The cutters numbered HQ700 to HQ707 were transferred to the Republic of Vietnam Navy in 1969, from HQ708 to HQ725 were transferred in 1970."<br/> | |||
This supports the Coast Guard date.<br/><br/> | |||
<li>Regarding the ship's Vietnamese name and hull number:</li><br/> | |||
page for the | The U.S. Wikipedia pages for [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USCGC_Point_Lomas POINT LOMAS] and | ||
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USCGC_Point_Banks POINT BANKS] say the ships were renamed to HQ-718 and HQ-719 respectively but do not give names.<br/> | |||
The U.S. Wikipedia page for [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Point-class_cutters_of_the_Republic_of_Vietnam_Navy Point-class cutters of the Republic of Vietnam Navy] | |||
connects the names as:<br/> | |||
<table> | |||
<tr><td> HQ 718</td><td> NGO VAN QUYEN</td> | |||
<td> (alt: NGÔ-VĂN-QUYỀN, NGÔ VĂN QUYỀN)</td><td> POINT LOMAS</td></tr> | |||
<tr><td> HQ 719</td><td> VAN DIEN</td> | |||
<td> (alt: VAN-DIEM, VĂN-ÐIỀM, VĂN ĐIỂN, VÂN ĐIỀN)</td><td> POINT BANKS</td></tr> | |||
</table> | |||
This version is supported by the [https://www.navypedia.org/ships/vietnam_south/svi_cf_le_foc_duc.htm Navypedia] website and the | |||
[https://web.archive.org/web/20111002154115/http://www.harpoondatabases.com/encyclopedia/Entry2010.aspx Harpoon Databases] page | |||
for "WPB-82301 Point class"<br/> | |||
(which is cited as a source by the | |||
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ships_of_the_Republic_of_Vietnam_Navy List of ships of the Republic of Vietnam Navy] U.S. Wikipedia page).<br/> | |||
<!-- Archive file: Point_Banks_Vietnam.pdf --> | |||
It is also supported by the U.S. Coast Guard history pages for | |||
[https://www.history.uscg.mil/Browse-by-Topic/Assets/Water/All/Article/2540533/point-lomas-1961-wpb-82321/ POINT LOMAS] | |||
and [https://www.history.uscg.mil/Browse-by-Topic/Assets/Water/All/Article/2535962/point-banks-1961-wpb-82327/ POINT BANKS].<br/><br/> | |||
However, the Vietnamese Wikipedia page for the | |||
[https://vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%E1%BA%A3i_qu%C3%A2n_Vi%E1%BB%87t_Nam_C%E1%BB%99ng_h%C3%B2a Republic of Vietnam Navy] says the opposite:<br/> | |||
<table> | |||
<tr><td> HQ 718</td><td> NGO VAN QUYEN</td> | |||
<td> (alt: NGÔ-VĂN-QUYỀN, NGÔ VĂN QUYỀN)</td><td> POINT BANKS</td></tr> | |||
<tr><td> HQ 719</td><td> VAN DIEN</td> | |||
<td> (alt: VAN-DIEM, VĂN-ÐIỀM, VĂN ĐIỂN, VÂN ĐIỀN)</td><td> POINT LOMAS</td></tr> | |||
</table> | |||
This version is supported by [https://chienhuuvnch.com/2018/01/page/2/ The Story of the Republic of Vietnam Navy Evacuation] | |||
blog article by Dinh Manh Hung (Đinh Mạnh Hùng) dated January 26, 2018.<br/><br/> | |||
I will go with the U.S. Coast Guard version until more evidence is found to support the Vietnamese Wikipedia version. | |||
</ol> | |||
<p> </p> | <p> </p> | ||
Revision as of 22:49, 15 August 2024
Ship Name and Designation History
This section lists the names and designations that the ship had during its lifetime. The list is in chronological order.
- CG 82327 (U.S. Coast Guard) Commissioned December 13 1961
- USCGC POINT BANKS WPB-82327 Named and Designated January 1964 - Decommissioned May 26 1970
- VAN DIEN HQ-719 (South Vietnamese Naval Service) (alt: VAN-DIEM, VĂN-ÐIỀM, VĂN ĐIỂN, VÂN ĐIỀN) Transferred to South Vietnam May 26 1970
Point Class 82 foot Coastal Patrol Boat
Keel Laid - Launched
[Note: Although the U.S. Coast Guard may use "WPB-82327" in its documentation,
the identification painted on the ship's hull is "CG 82327" (as seen in photos)]
Decommissioned 30 Apr 1975
Scrapped (date unknown)
Conflicting History Data
There is one minor disagreement on the date of transfer to South Vietnam and a larger disagreement on the Vietnamese name and hull number.
- Regarding the date of transfer to South Vietnam:
- Regarding the ship's Vietnamese name and hull number:
Wikipedia says: "On 17 November 1969, Point Banks was turned over to the Republic of Vietnam Navy
as part of the Vietnamization of the war effort and recommissioned as HQ-719."
The U.S. Coast Guard history page for POINT BANKS says: "Transferred to South Vietnam as HQ 719 on 26 May 1970."
The May 1970 service end date conflicts with Wikipedia's November 1969 but they both agree the ship was transferred to South Vietnam as HQ-719.
The Story of the Republic of Vietnam Navy Evacuation blog article by Dinh Manh Hung (Đinh Mạnh Hùng) dated January 26, 2018 says:
"The cutters numbered HQ700 to HQ707 were transferred to the Republic of Vietnam Navy in 1969, from HQ708 to HQ725 were transferred in 1970."
This supports the Coast Guard date.
The U.S. Wikipedia pages for POINT LOMAS and POINT BANKS say the ships were renamed to HQ-718 and HQ-719 respectively but do not give names.
The U.S. Wikipedia page for Point-class cutters of the Republic of Vietnam Navy connects the names as:
HQ 718 | NGO VAN QUYEN | (alt: NGÔ-VĂN-QUYỀN, NGÔ VĂN QUYỀN) | POINT LOMAS |
HQ 719 | VAN DIEN | (alt: VAN-DIEM, VĂN-ÐIỀM, VĂN ĐIỂN, VÂN ĐIỀN) | POINT BANKS |
This version is supported by the Navypedia website and the
Harpoon Databases page
for "WPB-82301 Point class"
(which is cited as a source by the
List of ships of the Republic of Vietnam Navy U.S. Wikipedia page).
It is also supported by the U.S. Coast Guard history pages for
POINT LOMAS
and POINT BANKS.
However, the Vietnamese Wikipedia page for the
Republic of Vietnam Navy says the opposite:
HQ 718 | NGO VAN QUYEN | (alt: NGÔ-VĂN-QUYỀN, NGÔ VĂN QUYỀN) | POINT BANKS |
HQ 719 | VAN DIEN | (alt: VAN-DIEM, VĂN-ÐIỀM, VĂN ĐIỂN, VÂN ĐIỀN) | POINT LOMAS |
This version is supported by The Story of the Republic of Vietnam Navy Evacuation
blog article by Dinh Manh Hung (Đinh Mạnh Hùng) dated January 26, 2018.
I will go with the U.S. Coast Guard version until more evidence is found to support the Vietnamese Wikipedia version.
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