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The history given above is from [https://www.hcny.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/USS-Harvard-Ship-Model.pdf THE U.S.S. HARVARD SHIP MODEL] page | The history given above is from [https://www.hcny.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/USS-Harvard-Ship-Model.pdf THE U.S.S. HARVARD SHIP MODEL] page | ||
of the Harvard Club of New York City (HCNY) website.<br/> | of the Harvard Club of New York City (HCNY) website.<br/> | ||
I chose to put my faith in this historical account | I chose to put my faith in this historical account given the supporting evidence found in Lloyd's.<br/><br/> | ||
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The first appearance of the ship in <i>Lloyd's Register of Yachts</i> is in the 1905 edition as "WACOUTA (ex Eleanor)"<br/> | The first appearance of the ship in <i>Lloyd's Register of Yachts</i> is in the 1905 edition as "WACOUTA (ex Eleanor)"<br/> | ||
with owner as "James J. Hill" and home port of St. Paul, Minnesota. | with owner as "James J. Hill" and home port of St. Paul, Minnesota. | ||
I can find no entries in prior editions for either WACOUTA or ELEANOR.<br/> | I can find no entries in prior editions for either WACOUTA or ELEANOR.<br/> | ||
James J. Hill is still listed as the owner in the 1915 edition.<br/><br/> | James J. Hill is still listed as the owner in the 1915 edition. | ||
The ship reappears in <i>Lloyd's Register of Shipping 1924</i> as ATHINAI<br/><br/> | |||
Our normal sources appear to be greatly confused about this ship's history. They get bits and pieces right but a lot of other things wrong.<br/><br/> | Our normal sources appear to be greatly confused about this ship's history. They get bits and pieces right but a lot of other things wrong.<br/><br/> | ||
For pre-WWI ownership, [https://www.navsource.org/archives/12/170209.htm NavSource] says this ship was built in 1893 (launched in 1894) | For pre-WWI ownership, [https://www.navsource.org/archives/12/170209.htm NavSource] says this ship was built in 1893 (launched in 1894) | ||
for "William A. Slater of Norwich, CT"<br/> | for "William A. Slater of Norwich, CT"<br/> | ||
and then sold in 1900 to "Charles F. Baker, Jr." who retained ownership until it was acquired by the Navy in 1917.<br/> | and then sold in 1900 to "Charles F. Baker, Jr." who retained ownership until it was acquired by the Navy in 1917.<br/> | ||
George F. Baker (not Charles F. Baker) bought the ship in 1917 - not 1900.<br/><br/> | It was actually George F. Baker (not Charles F. Baker) who bought the ship and it was in 1917 - not 1900.<br/> | ||
James J. Hill bought the ship in 1900<br/><br/> | |||
The [https://www.history.navy.mil/research/histories/ship-histories/danfs/h/harvard-ii.html Naval History and Heritage Command] (NHHC) page for Harvard SP-206 | The [https://www.history.navy.mil/research/histories/ship-histories/danfs/h/harvard-ii.html Naval History and Heritage Command] (NHHC) page for Harvard SP-206 | ||
gives the same name for the initial owner<br/> | gives the same name for the initial owner<br/> | ||
but disagrees with the build date: 1904 vs 1893. | but disagrees with the build date: 1904 vs 1893. | ||
1883 is correct<br/><br/> | 1883 is correct<br/><br/> | ||
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Harvard_(SP-209) Wikipedia] also says the ship was built for "William A. Slater" | [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Harvard_(SP-209) Wikipedia] also says the ship was built for "William A. Slater" |
Latest revision as of 16:54, 31 July 2024
Ship Name and Designation History
This section lists the names and designations that the ship had during its lifetime. The list is in chronological order.
- Steam Yacht / Patrol Yacht
- ELEANOR (Private Yacht) Owned by William A. Slater of Norwich, CT (Harvard Class of 1881, the heir of a textile fortune centered in Norwich, Connecticut)
- WACOUTA (Private Yacht) Sold in 1900 to James J. Hill (President of the Great Northern Railway and the Northern Pacific railroad) and renamed
- HARVARD (Private Yacht) Sold in 1917 to George Baker Jr (Harvard Class of 1899, Commodore of the NYC Yacht Club) and renamed
- USS HARVARD SP-209 Commissioned May 10 1917 - Decommissioned July 26 1919
- ATHINAI (Commercial Service) Sold 1922 to Greek owners and renamed for inter-island passenger steamer between Greece and Italy
- PALERMO (Italian Naval Service) Salvaged in 1942, commissioned into the Italian navy, and renamed
- PALERMO (Commercial Service) Refitted as a commercial vessel in 1943
Keel Laid October 5 1893 by Bath Iron Works, Bath, ME
Launched May 7 1894
Official Number: 136473
Sold in 1899 to Charlotte Drake Martinez-Cardeza, a wealthy Philadelphia widow
Leased to U.S. Navy April 23 1917
Returned to owner in 1919
The ship reappears in Lloyd's Register of Shipping 1924 edition as ATHINAI with owner listed as "A. K. Riggas"
Ownership changed between 1929 and 1932 to "Hellenic Coast Lines Co. Ld"
When Italy invaded Greece in 1940, the Greek government took command of the ship
Sunk by German planes in 1941
Hit a mine on May 27, 1944 and sank off the coast of Yugoslavia
Conflicting History Data
The history given above is from THE U.S.S. HARVARD SHIP MODEL page
of the Harvard Club of New York City (HCNY) website.
I chose to put my faith in this historical account given the supporting evidence found in Lloyd's.
The first appearance of the ship in Lloyd's Register of Yachts is in the 1905 edition as "WACOUTA (ex Eleanor)"
with owner as "James J. Hill" and home port of St. Paul, Minnesota.
I can find no entries in prior editions for either WACOUTA or ELEANOR.
James J. Hill is still listed as the owner in the 1915 edition.
The ship reappears in Lloyd's Register of Shipping 1924 as ATHINAI
Our normal sources appear to be greatly confused about this ship's history. They get bits and pieces right but a lot of other things wrong.
For pre-WWI ownership, NavSource says this ship was built in 1893 (launched in 1894)
for "William A. Slater of Norwich, CT"
and then sold in 1900 to "Charles F. Baker, Jr." who retained ownership until it was acquired by the Navy in 1917.
It was actually George F. Baker (not Charles F. Baker) who bought the ship and it was in 1917 - not 1900.
James J. Hill bought the ship in 1900
The Naval History and Heritage Command (NHHC) page for Harvard SP-206
gives the same name for the initial owner
but disagrees with the build date: 1904 vs 1893.
1883 is correct
Wikipedia also says the ship was built for "William A. Slater"
but was later "sold to G F Baker" (no date given).
Note the first initial as "G" (for George) instead of "C" (for Charles) as given by NavSource. In this case, NHHC matches Wikipedia and HCNY.
Wikipedia also contradicts itself regarding the build date. The info box says it was launched in 1904 [incorrect] but the text says it was built in 1884.
As for post-WWI history, NavSource says:
- Sold in 1921 to Greek owners and renamed Athinia, used as an inter-island passenger steamer between Greece and Italy
- Sunk by German aircraft 22 April 1941 at Itea, Greece
- Hulk scrapped after the war.
The sale date is close but the name is wrong: ATHINIA vs ATHINAI. Also, the "hulk scrapped..." part is incorrect.
Wikipedia is correct with its minimalistic "The yacht was decommissioned and turned over to her owner 26 July 1919."
but says nothing about this history beyond that point.
NHHC says "The yacht was decommissioned at New York and returned to George F. Baker Jr. her owner, on 26 July 1919.
She was later sold to European commercial concerns and was reported to still be in service under Greek colors as late as 1948."
Mostly correct except the bit about going into 1948.
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